In 1989, Steve Wells began creating what is now The Skeptic’s Annotated Bible (SAB). First it was something for his personal use but 24 years later it has become a valuable internet resource for Skeptics, Atheists and Agnostics. The SAB has just been released in book form and will no doubt be a “conversation starter” around the house.

Joey and Sean talk to Steve Wells about the SAB and his book Drunk With Blood: God’s Killings In The Bible music by Bad Religion.

Show Notes

Guest: Steve Wells, author of The Skeptic’s Annotated Bible and Drunk With Blood: God’s Killings In The Bible.

Musical Break #1: Bad Religion “In Their Hearts is Right” from the album True North.

Musical Break #2: Bad Religion “Dept. of False Hope” from the album True North.

This week we’re talking beer. And Jesus. Can they coexist? Ben Smith from Reclamation Brewing Company helps bring a Christian perspective to beer drinking and beer culture. Music by Tumbledown.

Show Notes:

Guest: Ben Smith of Reclamation Brewing Company

Musical Break #1: Tumbledown “Lets Drink” from the album Tumbledown.

Musical Break #2: Tumbledown “Empty Bottle” from the album Empty Bottle.

Suggested Reading: What Would Jesus Drink: What the Bible Really Says About Alcohol by Brad Whittington

Other: Check out the BrewskiMe app!

In 2006, Shawn Nelson was a successful City Manager to one of the fastest growing cities in Southern California. However, in October of 2006 his life was drastically changed when his 24 year old son, Jake Nelson, was tragically killed in a car accident. This rocked him and his family to their core as they searched for meaning and purpose for this gaping hole in their lives. This week, Sean sits down to hear the story of tragedy, grief and hope as The Nelson’s focused their energy on Jacob’s House; a hospitality house for the Temecula area to be a “home away from home” when tragedy strikes.

Show Notes:

Jacob’s House becoming a reality

Home Becomes Jacob’s House

Jacob’s House Website

Live to Soar

Musical Break #1: Matt Baird “Worship You” from Unreleased vol. 1 EP.

Musical Break #2: Matt Baird “Creator Of All” from Unreleased vol. 1 EP.

Yesterday morning, President Obama spoke at the National Prayer Breakfast. Here is the audio. This opens up a discussion I want  to focus a podcast on in the near future. Where do we draw the line between religion and politics? Here’s what the First Amendment of the United States Constitution states:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Anything in there about Separation of Church and State? Do you think the National Prayer Breakfast goes against the First Amendment, or is it protected?

Seth Andrews was once a Bible believing, God-fearing Christian radio DJ. He now is the  host of a popular Atheist podcast radio show, with over 250,000 listeners and a devoted online community called The Thinking Atheist. Sean and Joey talk to him about his book “De-Converted: A Journey From Religion To Reason” and his journey.

Show Notes

Guest: Seth Andrews

The Thinking Atheist

Buy Seth’s book, De-Converted: A Journey From Religion To Reason:

Kindle Edition
Paperback
Audible Audio Edition

Musical Break: Lights & Motion – “Home” from the album Reanimation out on Deep Elm Records.

On Thursday, January 24, 2013, Sean and Joey attended an exhibit at Loyola Marymount University entitled Manifold Greatness: The Creation & Afterlife of the King James Bible. Speaking at this exhibit was non-other than Bart D. Ehrman, James A. Grey Distinguished Professor of Religious Studies, UNC Chapel Hill and author of some of our favorite books including: Forged, Jesus, Interrupted and Misquoting Jesus.

It was a memorable evening and we were able to record the lecture and (briefly) meet and speak with Dr. Ehrman. Here is the full lecture for your listening pleasure!

View more information about this event and view a video presentation of the lecture HERE.

Continuing the Gun Control conversation, Sean dives in further with his dad, Tom and uncle, Dave. We examine two opposing view points of Gun Control, Assault Rifle Bans and the Second Amendment. Music by Brett Detar.

Show Notes

Discussion #1: Libertarian Viewpoint, Tom Duregger

Discussion Questions:

President Barack Obama starts his 2nd term today on a momentus holiday as well, Martin Luther King, Jr Day. Here is the President’s speech. Enjoy.

Sean Duregger and co-host Joey Avalos discuss the hot topic of Gun Control with Texas Police Officer Seth [last name withheld] and Freelance Journalist Brad McHargue. Music by Barsuk recording artist David Bazan*.

Show Notes

* “American Flags” and “Backwoods Nation” used by permission of David Bazan, his management and Barsuk Records.

The AxPx Podcast
Episode #13

Topic: Gun Control

On December 14^th, 2012 a bloodthirsty madman shot his mother at home then proceded to kill 20 children and 6 adults at a small town school: Sandy Hook Elementary School. This was the second-deadliest school shooting in US History after the 2007 Virginia Tech massacre and can also be considered one of the most heinous with the killing of innocent children.

This incident sent the Gun Control discussion through the roof, prompting our Government to respond.  On January 16^th, President Barack Obama signed 23 Excecutive Orders while also sending a message to Congress that he’d push an Assault Rifle Ban including a Magazine Clip Limit of 10 rounds.

President Obama: “Let me be absolutely clear: like most Americans, I believe the 2nd Amendment guarantees an individual right to bear arms.”

President Obama: “With rights come responsibilities.”

http://www.whitehouse.gov/photos-and-video/video/2013/01/16/president-obama-introduces-plan-reduce-gun-violence

Guests: Seth –  Texas Police Officer
Brad McHargue – Journalist

Obama’s 23 Executive Orders:

1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.
2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.
3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.
4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.
5. Propose rule making to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.
6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.
7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.
8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).
9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.
10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.
11. Nominate an ATF director.
12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.
13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.
14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.
15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.
16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.
18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.
19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.
20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.
21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.
22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.
23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.

http://www.caintv.com/complete-list-of-obamas-execut

 Music Break #1: David Bazan – American Flags off the 2008 7” single from Barsuk Records.

Discussion Questions:

• In your ideal society, what would be your preferential “gun control” legislation?
• If Assault Rifles are banned, where should the government draw the line? What defines an Assault Rifle?
• Should a U.S. citizen have the right to own an arsenal?
• If all guns disappeared from our society, would that permanently eliminate all mass murder incidents or would madmen find another way?
• What about weapons like Flame Throwers or Bazookas?

From Jason Stout: “You can… You just have to apply for a NFA tax stamp to the ATF if your state allows it, then get it approved by your local sheriff.

The problem with those who are anti-gun is that they usually have no clue what they are talking about when it comes to firearm laws and even the firearms they choose to discriminate against. Even if they ban “assault” rifles, you can still apply for NFA tax stamps and get what you want as long as you follow the law.

Personally, I think that all this hubbub about this ban talk is not going anywhere. At least not at the federal level. Not at least for another 2 years. Those rascally republicans still hold the the congress at the very least till then.

Per the NFA… These items would fall under this category:

Destructive Devices (DDs)—there are two broad classes of destructive devices:

Devices such as grenades, bombs, explosive missiles, poison gas weapons, etc.

Any firearm with a bore over 0.50 except for shotguns or shotgun shells which have been found to be generally recognized as particularly suitable for sporting purposes. (Many firearms with bores over 0.50″, such as 12-gauge shotguns, are exempted from the law because they have been determined to have a “legitimate sporting use”.)”

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/guides/importation-verification/firearms-verification-nfa-destructive-device.html

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/guides/importation-verification/

 

 Music Break #2: David Bazan – Backwoods Nation off his first solo EP 2007’s Fewer Moving Parts on Barsuk Records.

Facebook Comments:

Joey’s personal Page:

“I think there may be ways to improve the process for people to become gun owners, but I don’t think more regulation, in terms of limitations on what people can own is needed. As long as there are no fully automatic weapons around, I’m fine with that.”

“I would feel safer if I had my own flame thrower. Seriously though, I cannot think of any reason whatsoever why somebody would need a fully automatic weapon. Guns are going to be around and there’s really not much we can do about it.”

“We already have weapon control, and arms isn’t specific to guns, is it? We can’t have tanks, RPGs, or Fighter planes. We can’t possess nukes. So what’s the issue if that weapon control includes weapons of war? I honestly don’t understand what the fight is over enough to have a solid opinion.”

“No semi-automatics. Not everyone should be allowed to have a gun – full background checks, including psychiatric records, etc. More guns is definitely NOT the answer.”

“Here’s one jobey: if states can pass laws making federally illegal substances legal to buy and use in their state why can’t each state then pass gun laws making it legal to own whatever type of armament they see fit, even if deemed illegal by the federal government? Who will they prosecute first, the gun owner or the pothead?”

“Marijuana is medicine for some people, like cancer patients. Guns are not medicine.”

“lets not be naive we both know the vast majority of marijuanna is not for medicinal purposes..its for recreation. Guns are for protection though and I would argue they save more lives than marijuana.”

“Oh Joey, why do I even post on a controversial subject. It only leads to me being annoyed by people. I like that you weren’t brought up to be obsessive about guns like so many people are.”

Sean’s personal page:

“The real issue is still inner city areas. Violent crime is down 50 percent the last ten years. It’s sad to me that incidents like sandy hook (which I highly question) are fueling this argument when they are such a small portion of the problem”

“Reason we need those type of weapons is if we are truley going to be able to defend if a tyrant got in America, we as Americans would have to defend against those weopens shooting at us. How would we be able to defend ourselves when the people we would be fighting has those weopens? The 2nd amendment is in case our Gov tries to ever take over with a Tyrant…

people don’t remember the last time we had the same laws in place and it made no difference. People that want to kill people will find a way to get it done. Whether they get assault weapons via black market or they use a gun that only holds 9 rounds in the end people will be dead and it really doesn’t matter how many rounds it took or what type of weapon used, knives, forks, hands, rope, hammer…they all can kill.
The gun doesn’t do the killing, the person consciously making the decision to pull the trigger do the killing. Can’t fix people by taking stuff away, you have to change their heart.”

“I own several “Assault” weapons… They don’t just open their own case, unlock, load themselves and start killing people.
Government infringing on our rights is more frightening than people with guns.
[I own guns] Because I enjoy shooting. I target shoot, hunt, and shoot competitively. But most of all, I have one because our second amendment in the Bill of Rights states that I can. I also have several pistols and other rifles. Shooting sports are and have been a way of life for me. I don’t see how demonizing a piece of metal will keep any of you safer. Good people with firearms can. Criminals will always break the law… But saying that a law abiding citizen should be punished for the firearm he/she chooses is an infringement on our rights. I’m all about freedom. My forefathers and family members didn’t fight in countless wars and come home maimed and heartbroken so that the government can dictate every action or choice I make. Planned parenthood kill over 300,000 babies a year. “Assault” rifles killed a total of 1% of all firearm related deaths last year. More deaths were caused by murder with a hammer than assault rifles last year.”

The Armchair Philosopher page:

“Military grade rifles are ones that pose a threat to the government if they take away our rights as citizens. The plan is to sufficiently disarm Americans so the government can force us to do their bidding, rather than the other way around.

Just as tax increases were not about lowering the deficit, gun control is not about saving the lives of students.”

“This is exactly what the “other” camp thought he would do/say. From what I have read, this is exactly what Hitler did/said before he disarmed and “exterminated” SIX. MILLION. HUMAN BEINGS. That’s 6,000,000 men, women and children. Why would you assume the possibility that this would silence the comparisons?”

“So I am not an expert on military assault rifles, or much of anything, but in an up close and personal situation it seems shotguns are more destructive than rifles. Yet I can’t recall ever hearing about them in this debate.”

Links of Interest:

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/12/14/mythbusting-israel-and-switzerland-are-not-gun-toting-utopias/

http://www.salon.com/2013/01/03/far_right_loses_its_collective_mind_over_possible_gun_legislation/?mobile.html

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/12/14/nine-facts-about-guns-and-mass-shootings-in-the-united-states/

This is President Barack Obama’s full speech he gave on January 16, 2013 outlining his plan to reduce gun violence in America. Bonus content for the upcoming AxPx Episode 13: Gun Control. Enjoy.

Audio from speech downloaded from www.whitehouse.gov.

This week, Joey and Sean sit down and talk Conspiracy Theories with Sambo Moncivaiz. Focusing on Chemtrails and the hidden cure for cancer, we try to uncover the fact and the fiction.

Show Notes:

Musical Break #1 – Drew Holcomb and the Neighbors, “Anywhere But Here” from their Noisetrade Sampler. Release Date: out now

Musical Break #2 – Drew Holcomb and the Neighbors, “Live Forever” from their Noisetrade Sampler. Release Date: out now

Definition of Conspiracy Theory: A theory that explains an event or set of circumstances as result of a secret plot by usually powerful conspirators.

Some of the top conspiracy theories in history:

• The Moon Landing
• JFK’s assassination
• 9/11
• The Holocaust

The End of the world prophesies that have failed:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events

Neil DeGrasse Tyson: Astrophysicist, American Museum of Natural History. Author: Space Chronicles, The Pluto Files
“Hard to take seriously predictions about the end of the world from the Maya, a culture that could not predict its own demise.”“Hard to take science cues from the Maya, who never discovered the wheel, and who sacrificed animals to satisfy gods.”Things you might say if you flunked Astro101: “The Mayans knew more about the universe than do modern-day scientists”

NASA-“Their calendar does not end on December 21, 2012; it’s just the end of the cycle and the beginning of a new one. It’s just like on December 31, our calendar comes to an end, but a new calendar begins on January 1.”Carl Sagan’s famous maxim, he said: “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Since the beginning of time there have been literally hundreds of thousands of predictions for the end of the world, and we’re still here.”

CHEMTRAILS

Links of note:
“What is the world are they spraying?” Documentary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf0khstYDLA

Project Cumulous
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Cumulus

Why aren’t they just contrails?

Contrails:  or vapor trails are long thin artificial clouds that sometimes form behind aircraft. Their formation is most often triggered by the water vapor in the exhaust of aircraft engines, but can also be triggered by the changes in air pressure in wingtip vortices or in the air over the entire wing surface.[1] Like all clouds, contrails are made of water, in the form of a suspension of billions of liquid droplets or ice crystals.
Depending on the temperature and humidity at the altitude the contrail forms, they may be visible for only a few seconds or minutes, or may persist for hours and spread to be several miles wide. Persistent spreading contrails are thought to have a significant effect on global climate.[2]

QUESTIONS:

1. Who are these people behind the chemtrails and what is their purpose(s) for spraying chemicals into the atmosphere?
2. How do we know that this chemtrails are actually happening? What is the evidence?
3. When did this all start?  Was their reason for producing chemtrails the same reason we have chemtrails today or has the reason or reasons evolved?

CURE FOR CANCER AND ALL DISEASES

1. Who is Royal Rife?
2. What was his claim?
3. What is the conspiracy behind this claim?
4. Does this device or medicine exist today? Who is carrying on his legacy?
5. Does this actually cure cancer and all diseases? Or does it help fight against Cancer and other diseases?
6. What is Bob Beck’s Protocol?
7. How do you know this is true? What is your evidence?

Links of note:
http://www.naturalnews.com/027104_cancer_WHO_Chi.html
http://www.rife.org/rifeslab.html
http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer02/BobBeck.html
http://altered-states.net/barry/bobbeck/
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/author/david-gorski/
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/the-hidden-cancer-cure/
http://scienceblogs.com/denialism/2007/07/23/this-is-why-you-should-never-s-1/

Learn how to relax, clear your mind and puke rainbows with Minneapolis’ WCCO Creative Producer/Director Erica Hanna. We discuss life, meditation and uncover the secrets of puking rainbows.

Show Notes

Sponsors: Charming Beard Coffee
Co-host: n/a

TOPIC – “Meditation and the act of Puking Rainbows”
Guest – Erica Hanna

Charity Water

Music Break #1: From Lancaster, Pennsylvania – Denison Witmer “In Your Hands” from the album “The Ones Who Wait, part II” on Asthmatic Kitty. OUT NOW. Go to http://denisonwitmer.bandcamp.com/

Music Break #2: From Lancaster, Pennsylvania – Denison Witmer “Abraham” (Sufjan Stevens cover)  from the album “The Ones Who Wait, part II” on Asthmatic Kitty. OUT NOW. Go to http://denisonwitmer.bandcamp.com/

Required Reading:

• • The Power of Now: A Guide to Spiritual Enlightenment by Eckhart Tolle
  • Super Brain: Unleashing the Explosive Power of Your Mind to Maximize Health, Happiness, and Spiritual Well-Being by Deepak Chopra
  • The Ultimate Happiness Prescription: 7 Keys to Joy and Enlightenment by Deepak Chopra

After a circus of an election year, we figure it’s time to address the “Mormon Moment.” Guest, Trevor McGarrah lays the ground work for his Mormon faith, dispelling the “myths” that circled the 2012 Election Year and Republican Candidate Mitt Romney. Featuring music by Deep Elm’s Our Lost Infantry.

Intro

Sponsors: Charming Beard Coffee

Co-host: Joey Avalos

 TOPIC – “The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints”

Introduce Guest – Trever McGarrah

Introduce Topic:

1) I’d like to know your journey into Mormonism. Did you grow up in it? Did you become a Mormon later on in life?

2) What are the steps one must take to grow up in the Mormon Church? When did you go on Mission and what is the point of that?

3) If you grew up in the Mormon faith, did you have struggles from people who didn’t understand your faith?

4) What do you see in Mormonism that gives you the impression that it is the true faith?

Music Break 1:

From Aldershot, UK – Our Lost  Infantry “Fearless” from the album “The New Art History” on Deep Elm Records. OUT NOW. Go to http://www.deepelmdigital.com

Top 12 myths about Mormonism:

http://www.religionnews.com/faith/doctrine-and-practice/12-myths-about-Mormonism-that-persist-despite-the-Mormon-moment

1) Mormons practice polygamy

2) Mormons are not Christians

3) Mormons aren’t supposed to drink caffeinated beverages

4) Mormons don’t dance

5) All Mormons live in Utah

6) Women can’t be leaders or speak in the LDS church

7) All Mormons are Republicans

8) A Mormon US President would be a puppet of the LDS prophet

9) Mormons baptize corpses

10) Mormons can’t use birth control

11) Mormons get naked in the temple

12) Mormons don’t believe in the Bible

Music Break 2:

From Aldershot, UK – Our Lost  Infantry “Howl” from the album “The New Art History” on Deep Elm Records. OUT NOW. Go to http://www.deepelmdigital.com

Today’s featured music was brought to you by Our Lost  Infantry on Deep  Elm Records. Go to http://www.deepelmdigital.com to buy their album. 

 Today’s show sponsored by Charming Beard Coffee. www.charmingbeard.com

The New Atheism Movement is on Joey’s mind this week. We discuss the “new-ish” movement, Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens and even Kirk Cameron with special guest Rob Hunter. Music by Tin Horn Prayer and Undesirable People.

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Show Notes

Intro

Sponsors: None

Co-host: Joey Avalos

TOPIC – “New Atheism”

Introduce Guest – Rob Hunter

Introduce Topic:

New Atheism is the name given to the ideas promoted by a collection of modern atheist writers who have advocated the view that “religion should not simply be tolerated but should be countered, criticized, and exposed by rational argument wherever its influence arises.”[1]

The term is commonly associated with individuals such as Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett, Sam Harris, and Christopher Hitchens (together called “the Four Horsemen of New Atheism” in a 2007 debate they held on their criticisms of religion, a name that has stuck),[2] along with Victor J. Stenger,[3] A.C. Grayling,[4] and P.Z. Myers.[5] Several best-selling books by these authors, published between 2004 and 2007, form the basis for much of the discussion of New Atheism.[6]

Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.[1][2] In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.[3][4][5] Most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist.[4][5][6][7] Atheism is contrasted with theism,[8][9] which in its most general form is the belief that at least one deity exists.[9][10]

Top New Atheist activists

Christopher Hitchens- God is not great.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Hitchens

Sam Harris- The End of faith. A letter to a Christian Nation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Harris_(author)

Richard Dawkins- The God Delusion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Dawkins

Daniel Dennett- Breaking the Spell: Religion as a Natural Phenomenon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Dennett

Music Break 1:

From Denver, Colorado – Tin Horn Prayer, “1939” from the album “Get Busy Dyeing” on Bermuda Mohawk Productions. OUT NOW. Go to http://tinhornprayer.bandcamp.com

1.     What is Atheism?

2.     What is “New Atheism?”

3.     What is driving this so-called New Atheism?

4.     Is the “New Atheist” Movement here to stay? What does the future look like for America? Will it one day become just like Europe?

5.     Atheism Plus. What’s this all about?

The Opposition: Defending Religion/ Christianity

Top Apologists

Dinesh D’ Souza

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinesh_D’Souza

William Lane Craig

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Lane_Craig

Mike Licona

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_R._Licona

Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Comfort

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirk_Cameron

Frank Turek

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Turek

Rallies and Atheist conventions

Skepticon

Atheist Alliance International (AAI)

American Atheists National Convention

Global Atheist Convention

Reason Rally

Freedom from Religion

The Clergy Project

Project Reason

Music Break 2:

From St Clair Shores, Michigan – Undesirable People, “Eugenics” from the album Eugenics. OUT NOW. Go to http://undesirablepeople.bandcamp.com/

End Show

Recommended Reading by Rob Hunter – Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, Christ’s Childhood Pal – http://www.amazon.com/Lamb-Gospel-According-Christs-Childhood/dp/0380813815

Today’s featured music was brought to you by Tin Horn Prayer, “1939” from the album “Get Busy Dyeing” on Bermuda Mohawk Productions. OUT NOW. Go to http://tinhornprayer.bandcamp.com and Undesirable People, “Eugenics” from the album Eugenics. OUT NOW. Go to http://undesirablepeople.bandcamp.com/