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Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0lRJWiGZfCStBnme6xbnmk?si=qez0LslXQ462CfN73xZiYA&amp;dl_branch=1
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-messy-podcast/id1587365184</p>

<p>More info at: https://lovingmessypeople.com</p>
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      <description>Scott gives an update on the summer and what the future of The Messy Podcast could be as he enters his first day of sabbatical today.</description>
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<p>Follow The Messy Podcast...
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0lRJWiGZfCStBnme6xbnmk?si=qez0LslXQ462CfN73xZiYA&amp;dl_branch=1
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-messy-podcast/id1587365184</p>

<p>More info at: https://lovingmessypeople.com</p>
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<p>Follow The Messy Podcast...
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0lRJWiGZfCStBnme6xbnmk?si=qez0LslXQ462CfN73xZiYA&amp;dl_branch=1
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-messy-podcast/id1587365184</p>

<p>More info at: https://lovingmessypeople.com</p>
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      <description>In this episode of "I've Got a Question," Scott interviews Charles Hodges clarifying the role of medication in the realm of Biblical counseling.</description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of "I've Got a Question," Scott interviews Charles Hodges clarifying the role of medication in the realm of Biblical counseling.</p>

<p>Follow The Messy Podcast...
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0lRJWiGZfCStBnme6xbnmk?si=qez0LslXQ462CfN73xZiYA&amp;dl_branch=1
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-messy-podcast/id1587365184</p>

<p>More info at: https://lovingmessypeople.com</p>
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      <description>In this episode of "I've Got a Question," Scott interviews Jason Kovacs and Tim St. John about the different contexts in which Gospel counseling can take place.</description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of "I've Got a Question," Scott interviews Jason Kovacs and Tim St. John about the different contexts in which Gospel counseling can take place.</p>

<p>Follow The Messy Podcast...
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0lRJWiGZfCStBnme6xbnmk?si=qez0LslXQ462CfN73xZiYA&amp;dl_branch=1
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-messy-podcast/id1587365184</p>

<p>More info at: https://lovingmessypeople.com</p>
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      <description>Scott Mehl interviews Jenn Chen about the different types of shame and how someone with shame can find hope in the Gospel.</description>
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<p>Follow The Messy Podcast...
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0lRJWiGZfCStBnme6xbnmk?si=qez0LslXQ462CfN73xZiYA&amp;dl_branch=1
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-messy-podcast/id1587365184</p>

<p>More info at: https://lovingmessypeople.com</p>
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Follow The Messy Podcast...
Spotify:…</itunes:subtitle>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2023 12:12:00 +0200</pubDate>
      <description>Scott Mehl interviews Steve Midgley about how mental health and the Gospel intersect.</description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott Mehl interviews Steve Midgley about how mental health and the Gospel intersect.</p>

<p>Follow The Messy Podcast...
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0lRJWiGZfCStBnme6xbnmk?si=qez0LslXQ462CfN73xZiYA&amp;dl_branch=1
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-messy-podcast/id1587365184</p>

<p>More info at: https://lovingmessypeople.com</p>
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      <dc:creator>Scott Mehl</dc:creator>
      <itunes:subtitle>Scott Mehl interviews Steve Midgley about how mental health and the Gospel intersect.
Follow The Messy Podcast...
Spotify:…</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Scott Mehl interviews Steve Midgley about how mental health and the Gospel intersect.</itunes:summary>
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      <title>REPOST: 107. The Mess of Abuse (w/ Darby Strickland)</title>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2023 08:18:00 +0200</pubDate>
      <description>Scott Mehl interviews Darby Strickland on the intricacies of abuse. This episode was orginally released during season 1 of *The Messy Podcast.*</description>
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<p>Resources:</p>

<p>Darby Strickland – Is it Abuse: A Biblical Guide to Identifying Domestic Abuse and Helping Victims
https://www.amazon.com/Abuse-Biblical-Identifying-Domestic-Helping/dp/1629956945</p>

<p>Darby Strickland – Domestic Abuse: Help for the Sufferer
https://www.amazon.com/Domestic-Abuse-Sufferer-Resources-Changing/dp/1629953253/</p>

<p>Chris Moles - The Heart of Domestic Abuse
https://www.amazon.com/Heart-Domestic-Abuse-Solutions-Violence/dp/1936141272</p>

<p>Justin and Lindsay Holcomb – Is it My Fault?
https://www.amazon.com/My-Fault-Suffering-Domestic-Violence/dp/0802410243/</p>

<p>Joy Forrest – Called to Peace: A Survivor’s Guide to Finding Peace
https://www.amazon.com/Called-Peace-Survivors-Finding-Domestic/dp/1948449013/</p>

<p>Jeremy Pierre and Greg Wilson – When Home Hurts
https://www.amazon.com/When-Home-Hurts-Responding-Domestic/dp/1527107221/</p>

<p>Diane Langberg – Suffering and the Heart of God
https://www.amazon.com/Suffering-Heart-God-Destroys-Restores/dp/1942572026/</p>

<p>Church Cares Curriculum
https://churchcares.com/</p>

<p>Follow The Messy Podcast...
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0lRJWiGZfCStBnme6xbnmk?si=qez0LslXQ462CfN73xZiYA&amp;dl_branch=1
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-messy-podcast/id1587365184</p>

<p>More info at: https://lovingmessypeople.com</p>
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      <dc:creator>Scott Mehl</dc:creator>
      <itunes:subtitle>Scott Mehl interviews Darby Strickland on the intricacies of abuse. This episode was orginally released during season 1 of The Messy Podcast.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2023 08:00:00 +0100</pubDate>
      <description>In a new segment, "I've Got a Question," Scott interviews Demetrius Nathan and Jonathan Holmes on the topic of how ethnicity impacts the biblical counseling process.</description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a new segment, "I've Got a Question," Scott interviews Demetrius Nathan and Jonathan Holmes on the topic of how ethnicity impacts the biblical counseling process.</p>

<p>Follow The Messy Podcast...
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0lRJWiGZfCStBnme6xbnmk?si=qez0LslXQ462CfN73xZiYA&amp;dl_branch=1
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-messy-podcast/id1587365184</p>

<p>More info at: https://lovingmessypeople.com</p>
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      <dc:creator>Scott Mehl</dc:creator>
      <itunes:subtitle>In a new segment, "I've Got a Question," Scott interviews Demetrius Nathan and Jonathan Holmes on the topic of how ethnicity impacts the biblical counseling process.
Follow The Messy…</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In a new segment, "I've Got a Question," Scott interviews Demetrius Nathan and Jonathan Holmes on the topic of how ethnicity impacts the biblical counseling process.</itunes:summary>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2023 15:47:19 +0100</pubDate>
      <description>Scott interviews Jim Berg about how the Gospel can speak life to people struggling to overcome addiction.</description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott interviews Jim Berg about how the Gospel can speak life to people struggling to overcome addiction.</p>

<p>Follow The Messy Podcast...
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0lRJWiGZfCStBnme6xbnmk?si=qez0LslXQ462CfN73xZiYA&amp;dl_branch=1
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-messy-podcast/id1587365184</p>

<p>More info at: https://lovingmessypeople.com</p>
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Follow The Messy Podcast...
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      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
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<p>Sponsored by Eternity Bible College: https://www.eternity.edu</p>

<p>Follow The Messy Podcast...
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<p>More info at: https://lovingmessypeople.com</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2022 08:00:00 +0100</pubDate>
      <description>In this episode of The Messy Podcast, Scott Mehl interviews Carolina Barba-Ortiz on how children with autism can be counseled.</description>
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<p>Sponsored by Eternity Bible College: https://www.eternity.edu</p>

<p>Follow The Messy Podcast...
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0lRJWiGZfCStBnme6xbnmk?si=qez0LslXQ462CfN73xZiYA&amp;dl_branch=1
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<p>More info at: https://lovingmessypeople.com</p>
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Sponsored by Eternity Bible College: https://www.eternity.edu
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      <description>In this episode of The Messy Podcast, Scott Mehl interviews Jeremy Pierre on how to approach counseling someone who is abusive.</description>
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<p>Sponsored by Eternity Bible College: https://www.eternity.edu</p>

<p>Follow The Messy Podcast...
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Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-messy-podcast/id1587365184</p>

<p>More info at: https://lovingmessypeople.com</p>
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Sponsored by Eternity Bible College: https://www.eternity.edu
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<p>Sponsored by Eternity Bible College: https://www.eternity.edu</p>

<p>Follow The Messy Podcast...
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Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-messy-podcast/id1587365184</p>

<p>More info at: https://lovingmessypeople.com</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2022 08:30:00 +0100</pubDate>
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<p>Sponsored by Eternity Bible College: https://www.eternity.edu</p>

<p>Resources:</p>

<p>Hope for the Hood: Bridging the Gap Between the Local Church &amp; the Local Gang by Prodigal Sons Inc,
https://open.spotify.com/show/6TAzuy7FBNECqOtvLlk2Jw?si=e3e3d13acdb54084</p>

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      <itunes:summary>In this episode of The Messy Podcast, Scott Mehl interviews Danny Neiditch about the trauma and struggles of gang members and how to engage with them for the Gospel.</itunes:summary>
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      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
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</ol>

<p>Sponsored by Eternity Bible College: https://www.eternity.edu</p>

<p>Follow The Messy Podcast...
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<p>More info at: https://lovingmessypeople.com</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2022 07:54:46 +0100</pubDate>
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<p>Sponsored by Eternity Bible College: https://www.eternity.edu</p>

<p>Follow The Messy Podcast...
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0lRJWiGZfCStBnme6xbnmk?si=qez0LslXQ462CfN73xZiYA&amp;dl_branch=1
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-messy-podcast/id1587365184</p>

<p>More info at: https://lovingmessypeople.com</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2022 08:00:00 +0200</pubDate>
      <description>In this episode of The Messy Podcast, Scott Mehl interviews Robert Jones about how the Bible says we should handle our anger.</description>
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<p>Sponsored by Eternity Bible College: https://www.eternity.edu</p>

<p>Follow The Messy Podcast...
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<p>More info at: https://lovingmessypeople.com</p>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode of The Messy Podcast, Scott Mehl interviews Robert Jones about how the Bible says we should handle our anger.
Sponsored by Eternity Bible College: https://www.eternity.edu
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      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2022 08:06:38 +0200</pubDate>
      <description>In this episode of The Messy Podcast, Scott Mehl interviews Venessa Ellen about the complexities of chronic illness and how counseling should approach people suffering.</description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of <em>The Messy Podcast,</em> Scott Mehl interviews Venessa Ellen about the complexities of chronic illness and how counseling should approach people suffering.</p>

<p>Sponsored by Eternity Bible College: https://www.eternity.edu</p>

<p>Follow The Messy Podcast...
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0lRJWiGZfCStBnme6xbnmk?si=qez0LslXQ462CfN73xZiYA&amp;dl_branch=1
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-messy-podcast/id1587365184</p>

<p>More info at: https://lovingmessypeople.com</p>
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      <dc:creator>Scott Mehl</dc:creator>
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Sponsored by Eternity Bible…</itunes:subtitle>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2022 18:50:05 +0200</pubDate>
      <description>An update from Scott Mehl about what's coming up for The Messy Podcast.</description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An update from Scott Mehl about what's coming up for <em>The Messy Podcast.</em>
Sponsored by Eternity Bible College: https://www.eternity.edu</p>

<p>Follow The Messy Podcast...
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<p>More info at: https://lovingmessypeople.com</p>
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      <dc:creator>Scott Mehl</dc:creator>
      <itunes:subtitle>An update from Scott Mehl about what's coming up for The Messy Podcast.
Sponsored by Eternity Bible College: https://www.eternity.edu
Follow The Messy Podcast...
Spotify:…</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>An update from Scott Mehl about what's coming up for The Messy Podcast.</itunes:summary>
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      <title>210. The Mess of Deconstruction (w/ Tom Sigumura)</title>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2022 21:11:30 +0200</pubDate>
      <description>In this episode of The Messy Podcast, Scott Mehl interviews Tom Sigumura about the effects of faith deconstruction and how to help people struggling with belief.</description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of *The Messy Podcast, *Scott Mehl interviews Tom Sigumura about the effects of faith deconstruction and how to help people struggling with belief.</p>

<p>Sponsored by Eternity Bible College: https://www.eternity.edu</p>

<p>Follow The Messy Podcast...
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Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-messy-podcast/id1587365184</p>

<p>More info at: https://lovingmessypeople.com</p>
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      <title>209. The Mess of Same-Sex Attraction (w/ Heath Lambert)</title>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <link>https://feedpress.me/the_messy_podcast#entry-8320</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2022 07:31:00 +0200</pubDate>
      <description>In this episode of The Messy Podcast, Scott Mehl interviews Heath Lambert about how the Gospel speaks to same-sex attraction.</description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of <em>The Messy Podcast,</em> Scott Mehl interviews Heath Lambert about how the Gospel speaks to same-sex attraction.</p>

<p>Sponsored by Eternity Bible College: https://www.eternity.edu</p>

<p>Resources:</p>

<p>The Secret Thoughts of an Unlikely Convert, Expanded Edition: An English Professor's Journey into Christian Faith by Rosaria Champagne Butterfield,
https://www.christianbook.com/thoughts-unlikely-expanded-edition-professors-christian/rosaria-butterfield/9781884527807/pd/527807</p>

<p>Trusting God by Jerry Bridges,
https://www.amazon.com/Trusting-God-Jerry-Bridges/dp/1631467921</p>

<p>For counselors:</p>

<p>Transforming Homosexuality: What the Bible Says about Sexual Orientation and Change by Denny Burk and Heath Lambert,
https://www.amazon.com/Transforming-Homosexuality-Sexual-Orientation-Change/dp/1596381396</p>

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Sponsored by Eternity Bible College:…</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>208. The Mess of Anxiety (w/ Paul Tautges)</title>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <link>https://feedpress.me/the_messy_podcast#entry-8230</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2022 01:13:00 +0200</pubDate>
      <description>In this episode of The Messy Podcast, Scott Mehl interviews Paul Tautges about different complexities and contributors of anxiety.</description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of <em>The Messy Podcast,</em> Scott Mehl interviews Paul Tautges about different complexities and contributors of anxiety.</p>

<p>Sponsored by Eternity Bible College: https://www.eternity.edu</p>

<p>Resources:</p>

<p>Help! I Get Panic Attacks (Lifeline Mini-Books) by Lucy Ann Moll,
https://www.amazon.com/Help-Panic-Attacks-Lifeline-Mini-Books/dp/1633421732</p>

<p>Worry: Pursuing a Better Path to Peace (Resources for Changing Lives) by David Powlison,
https://www.amazon.com/Worry-Pursuing-Better-Resources-Changing/dp/0875526969</p>

<p>Overcoming Fear, Worry, and Anxiety: Becoming a Woman of Faith and Confidence by Elyse Fitzpatrick,
https://www.amazon.com/Overcoming-Fear-Worry-Anxiety-Confidence/dp/0736905898</p>

<p>Help! I'm Anxious (Lifeline Mini-Books) by Philip De Courcy,
https://www.amazon.com/Help-Im-Anxious-Lifeline-Mini-Books/dp/1633421333</p>

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      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2022 21:10:00 +0200</pubDate>
      <description>In this episode of The Messy Podcast, Scott Mehl interviews Dave and Krista Dunham about counseling for those struggling with different eating disorders.</description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of <em>The Messy Podcast,</em> Scott Mehl interviews Dave and Krista Dunham about counseling for those struggling with different eating disorders.</p>

<p>Sponsored by Eternity Bible College: https://www.eternity.edu</p>

<p>Resources:</p>

<p>Table for Two: Biblical Counsel for Eating Disorders by David &amp; Krista Dunham,
https://www.amazon.com/Table-Two-Biblical-Counsel-Disorders/dp/1645070743</p>

<p>Love to Eat, Hate to Eat: Breaking the Bondage of Destructive Eating Habits by Elyse Fitzpatrick,
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Eat-Hate-Breaking-Destructive/dp/0736914382</p>

<p>Idols of the Heart: Learning to Long for God Alone by Elyse Fitzpatrick,
https://www.amazon.com/Idols-Heart-Learning-Revised-Updated/dp/1629952109</p>

<p>Shame Interrupted: How God Lifts the Pain of Worthlessness and Rejection by Edward T. Welch, https://www.amazon.com/Shame-Interrupted-Lifts-Worthlessness-Rejection/dp/1935273981</p>

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Sponsored by Eternity Bible College:…</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>206. The Mess of Marital Conflict (w/ Jonathan Holmes)</title>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <link>https://feedpress.me/the_messy_podcast#entry-8191</link>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2022 21:13:00 +0200</pubDate>
      <description>In this episode of The Messy Podcast, Scott Mehl interviews Jonathan Holmes about how to approach both good and bad conflict within marriage.</description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of <em>The Messy Podcast,</em> Scott Mehl interviews Jonathan Holmes about how to approach both good and bad conflict within marriage.</p>

<p>Sponsored by Eternity Bible College: https://www.eternity.edu</p>

<p>Resources:</p>

<p>Counsel for Couples: A Biblical and Practical Guide for Marriage Counseling by Jonathan D. Holmes,
https://www.amazon.com/Counsel-Couples-Biblical-Practical-Counseling/dp/031057627X</p>

<p>Resolving Chronic Conflicts in Marriage Counseling (conference audio) by Jonathan D. Holmes,
https://biblicalcounseling.com/product/jonathan-holmes-resolving-chronic-conflicts-in-marriage-counseling/</p>

<p>Marriage Conflict: Talking as Teammates (31-Day Devotionals for Life) by Steve Hoppe,
https://www.amazon.com/Marriage-Conflict-Talking-Teammates-Devotionals/dp/1629956856</p>

<p>For counselors:</p>

<p>Gospel-Centered Marriage Counseling: An Equipping Guide for Pastors and Counselors by Robert W. Kellemen, Ph.D.,
https://www.amazon.com/Gospel-Centered-Marriage-Counseling-Equipping-Counselors/dp/0801094348</p>

<p>Side by Side: Walking with Others in Wisdom and Love by Edward T. Welch,
https://www.amazon.com/Side-Walking-Others-Wisdom-Love/dp/1433547112</p>

<p>10 Principles for Doing Effective Couples Therapy (Norton Series on Interpersonal Neurobiology) by Julie Schwartz Gottman and John M. Gottman,
https://www.amazon.com/Principles-Effective-Couples-Interpersonal-Neurobiology/dp/0393708357</p>

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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode of The Messy Podcast, Scott Mehl interviews Jonathan Holmes about how to approach both good and bad conflict within marriage.
Sponsored by Eternity Bible College:…</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>205. The Mess of Doubt (w/ Elyse Fitzpatrick)</title>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <link>https://feedpress.me/the_messy_podcast#entry-8190</link>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2022 22:05:00 +0200</pubDate>
      <description>In this episode of The Messy Podcast, Scott Mehl interviews Elyse Fitzpatrick on the topic of doubt.</description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of *The Messy Podcast, *Scott Mehl interviews Elyse Fitzpatrick on the topic of doubt.</p>

<p>Sponsored by Eternity Bible College: https://www.eternity.edu</p>

<p>Resources:</p>

<p>Doubt: Trusting God's Promises (31-Day Devotionals for Life) by Elyse M. Fitzpatrick,
https://www.amazon.com/Doubt-Trusting-Promises-31-Day-Devotionals/dp/1629953660</p>

<p>Because He Loves Me: How Christ Transforms Our Daily Life by Elyse M. Fitzpatrick,
https://www.amazon.com/Because-He-Loves-Me-Transforms/dp/1433519518</p>

<p>Found in Him: The Joy of the Incarnation and Our Union with Christ by Elyse M. Fitzpatrick,
https://www.amazon.com/Found-Him-Incarnation-Union-Christ/dp/1433533235</p>

<p>Home: How Heaven and the New Earth Satisfy Our Deepest Longings by Elyse M. Fitzpatrick,
https://www.amazon.com/Home-Heaven-Satisfy-Deepest-Longings/dp/0764218026</p>

<p>God in the Dark: The Assurance of Faith Beyond a Shadow of Doubt by Os Guinness,
https://www.amazon.com/God-Dark-Assurance-Beyond-Shadow/dp/0891078452</p>

<p>Prayer in the Night: For Those Who Work or Watch or Weep by Tish Harrison Warren,
https://www.amazon.com/Prayer-Night-Those-Work-Watch/dp/0830846794</p>

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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode of *The Messy Podcast, *Scott Mehl interviews Elyse Fitzpatrick on the topic of doubt.
Sponsored by Eternity Bible College: https://www.eternity.edu
Resources:
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      <title>204. The Mess of Singleness (w/ Fawn Kemble)</title>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <link>https://feedpress.me/the_messy_podcast#entry-8163</link>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2022 21:25:00 +0200</pubDate>
      <description>In this episode of The Messy Podcast, Scott Mehl interviews Fawn Kemble on the blessings and struggles of being single.</description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of <em>The Messy Podcast,</em> Scott Mehl interviews Fawn Kemble on the blessings and struggles of being single.</p>

<p>Sponsored by Eternity Bible College: https://www.eternity.edu</p>

<p>Resources:</p>

<p>7 Myths About Singleness by Sam Allberry,
https://www.amazon.com/Myths-about-Singleness-Sam-Allberry/dp/1433561522</p>

<p>Life of the Beloved: Spiritual Living in a Secular World by Henri J.M. Nouwen,
https://www.amazon.com/Life-Beloved-Spiritual-Living-Secular/dp/0824519868</p>

<p>Beyond Awkward Side Hugs: Living as Christian Brothers and Sisters in a Sex-Crazed World by Bronwyn Lea,
https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Awkward-Side-Hugs-Sex-Crazed/dp/1400215005</p>

<p>Party of One: Truth, Longing, and the Subtle Art of Singleness by Joy Beth Smith,
https://www.amazon.com/Party-One-Longing-Subtle-Singleness/dp/0718094050</p>

<p>The Awkward Spinster: Life as an accidentally single, Christian, geek girl (blog by Fawn Kemble),
https://awkwardspinster.com/</p>

<p>For the Perpetually Single Christian (blog article) by Fawn Kemble,
https://cornerstonewla.org/blog/2016/07/11/for-the-perpetually-single-christian</p>

<p>Singleness and COVID-19 (Pastors’ Podcast with Fawn Kemble),
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/29-singleness-and-covid-19/id1499919920?i=1000489142138</p>

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      <dc:creator>Scott Mehl</dc:creator>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode of The Messy Podcast, Scott Mehl interviews Fawn Kemble on the blessings and struggles of being single.
Sponsored by Eternity Bible College: https://www.eternity.edu
Resources:
7…</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>203. The Mess of Racial Trauma (w/ Bobby Scott)</title>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <link>https://feedpress.me/the_messy_podcast#entry-8115</link>
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      <id>28</id>
      <pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2022 23:36:00 +0100</pubDate>
      <description>In this episode of The Messy Podcast, Scott Mehl interviews Bobby Scott about racial prejudice.</description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of <em>The Messy Podcast,</em> Scott Mehl interviews Bobby Scott about racial prejudice.</p>

<p>Sponsored by Eternity Bible College: https://www.eternity.edu</p>

<p>Resources:</p>

<p>Talking about Race: Gospel Hope for Hard Conversations by Isaac Adams,
https://www.amazon.com/Talking-about-Race-Gospel-Conversations/dp/0310124425</p>

<p>Beyond Racial Division: A Unifying Alternative to Colorblindness and Antiracism by George A. Yancey,
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09GPGZLSY/ref=dbs<em>a</em>def<em>rwt</em>hsch<em>vapi</em>tkin<em>p1</em>i0</p>

<p>Collaborative Conversations, Colorblindness, and Antiracism with George Yancey (podcast),
https://podcasts.apple.com/no/podcast/collaborative-conversations-colorblindness-and/id1564805021?i=1000520570139&amp;l=nb</p>

<p>The Problem of Slavery in Christian America: An Ethical-Judicial History of American Slavery and Racism by Joel McDurmon,
https://www.amazon.com/Problem-Slavery-Christian-America-Ethical-Judicial/dp/1074513568</p>

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<p>More info at: https://lovingmessypeople.com</p>
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      <dc:creator>Scott Mehl</dc:creator>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode of The Messy Podcast, Scott Mehl interviews Bobby Scott about racial prejudice.
Sponsored by Eternity Bible College: https://www.eternity.edu
Resources:
Talking about Race: Gospel…</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>202. The Mess of OCD (w/ Mike Emlet)</title>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <link>https://feedpress.me/the_messy_podcast#entry-7957</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2022 06:02:00 +0100</pubDate>
      <description>In this episode of The Messy Podcast, Scott Mehl interviews Mike Emlet on living with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.</description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of <em>The Messy Podcast,</em> Scott Mehl interviews Mike Emlet on living with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.</p>

<p>Sponsored by Eternity Bible College: https://www.eternity.edu</p>

<p>Resources:</p>

<p>OCD: Freedom for the Obsessive-Compulsive (Resources for Changing Lives) by Michael R. Emlet,
https://www.amazon.com/OCD-Freedom-Obsessive-Compulsive-Resources-Changing/dp/0875526985</p>

<p>CCEF resources on OCD
https://www.ccef.org/topic/obsessive-compulsive-disorder/</p>

<p>Scrupulosity: When Doubts Devour by Michael R. Emlet,
https://www.walesleadershipforum.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Scrupulosity-When-Doubts-Devour.pdf</p>

<p>Can Christianity Cure Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder?: A Psychiatrist Explores the Role of Faith in Treatment by Ian Osborn,
https://www.amazon.com/Can-Christianity-Cure-Obsessive-Compulsive-Disorder/dp/1587432064</p>

<p>OCD in Children and Adolescents: A Cognitive-Behavioral Treatment Manual by John S. March and Karen Mulle,
https://www.amazon.com/OCD-Children-Adolescents-Cognitive-Behavioral-Treatment/dp/1572302429</p>

<p>For counselors:</p>

<p>Biblical Counseling Coalition resources on OCD
https://www.biblicalcounselingcoalition.org/tag/ocd/</p>

<p>Counseling the Hard Cases: True Stories Illustrating the Sufficiency of God's Resources in Scripture (“Brian” and Obsessive Compulsive Disorder by Steve Viars),
https://www.amazon.com/Counseling-Hard-Cases-Illustrating-Sufficiency/dp/1433685795</p>

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      <title>201. The Mess of Bitterness (w/ Steve Viars)</title>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <link>https://feedpress.me/the_messy_podcast#entry-7956</link>
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<p>Sponsored by Eternity Bible College: https://www.eternity.edu</p>

<p>Resources:</p>

<p>Faith Ministries Counseling Resources
https://www.faithlafayette.org/conferences/counseling-resources</p>

<p>Overcoming Bitterness: Moving from Life's Greatest Hurts to a Life Filled with Joy by Stephen Viars,
https://www.amazon.com/Overcoming-Bitterness-Moving-Greatest-Filled/dp/1540900630</p>

<p>Putting Your Past in Its Place: Moving Forward in Freedom and Forgiveness by Stephen Viars,
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WAHAQJQ/ref=dbs<em>a</em>def<em>rwt</em>hsch<em>vapi</em>tkin<em>p1</em>i0</p>

<p>Dark Clouds, Deep Mercy: Discovering the Grace of Lament by Mark Vroegop,
https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Clouds-Deep-Mercy-Discovering-ebook/dp/B07JDDSSW9</p>

<p>Trusting God by Jerry Bridges,
https://www.amazon.com/Trusting-God-Jerry-Bridges/dp/1631467921</p>

<p>You Can Trust God pamphlet by Jerry Bridges,
https://www.amazon.com/You-Can-Trust-God-LifeChange/dp/0891095713/</p>

<p>Instruments in the Redeemer’s Hands by Paul David Tripp,
https://www.amazon.com/Instruments-Redeemers-Hands-Resources-Changing/dp/0875526071</p>

<p>God’s Healing for Life’s Losses: How to Find Hope When You’re Hurting by Robert Kellemen,
https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Healing-Lifes-Losses-Presents/dp/0884692701</p>

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      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2021 22:13:00 +0100</pubDate>
      <description>In this episode of The Messy Podcast, Scott Mehl interviews Demetrius Nathan on the power of peer pressure on others.</description>
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<p>Sponsored by Eternity Bible College: https://www.eternity.edu</p>

<p>Resources:</p>

<p>For kids:</p>

<p>Discipleship Explored Handbook by Barry Cooper, https://www.amazon.com/Discipleship-Explored-Handbook-Whats-youve/dp/1784982024</p>

<p>This Changes Everything by Jaquelle Crow, https://www.amazon.com/This-Changes-Everything-Gospel-Transforms/dp/143355514X</p>

<p>What Do People Think of Me? Why Do I Care? by Ed Welch, https://www.amazon.com/What-You-Think-Why-Care/dp/1935273868</p>

<p>When People are Big and God is Small by Ed Welch, https://www.amazon.com/When-People-Are-Big-Small/dp/0875526004</p>

<p>Don’t Waste Your Life by John Piper, https://www.amazon.com/Dont-Waste-Your-Life-Piper/dp/1581344988</p>

<p>For parents:</p>

<p>Age of Opportunity by Paul Tripp, https://www.amazon.com/Age-Opportunity-Biblical-Parenting-Resources/dp/0875526055</p>

<p>Discipleship Explored Leader’s Handbook by Barry Cooper, https://www.amazon.com/Discipleship-Explored-Leaders-Handbook-Whats/dp/1784982032</p>

<p>Who Am I? Identity in Christ by Jerry Bridges, https://www.amazon.com/Who-Am-I-Identity-Christ/dp/1936760479</p>

<p>Gen Z: The Culture, Beliefs and Motivation Shaping the Next Generation by Barna Group, https://www.amazon.com/Gen-Culture-Beliefs-Motivations-Generation/dp/1945269138</p>

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      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 07 Dec 2021 08:00:00 +0100</pubDate>
      <description>In this episode of The Messy Podcast, Scott Mehl interviews Jim Newheiser about people struggling with overwhelming debt.</description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of <em>The Messy Podcast,</em> Scott Mehl interviews Jim Newheiser about people struggling with overwhelming debt.</p>

<p>Sponsored by Eternity Bible College: https://www.eternity.edu</p>

<p>Resources:</p>

<p>Money, Debt &amp; Finances by Jim Newheiser, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08Z49J6CG/ref=dbs<em>a</em>def<em>rwt</em>hsch<em>vapi</em>tkin<em>p1</em>i2</p>

<p>Money: Seeking God’s Wisdom (31-Day Devotionals for Life) by Jim Newhieiser, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07YL68HWT/ref=dbs<em>a</em>def<em>rwt</em>hsch<em>vapi</em>tkin<em>p1</em>i11</p>

<p>Money, Possessions and Eternity by Randy Alcorn, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FCKCJM/ref=dbs<em>a</em>def<em>rwt</em>hsch<em>vapi</em>tkin<em>p1</em>i3</p>

<p>The Treasure Principle by Randy Alcorn, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007M2AOGY/ref=dbs<em>a</em>def<em>rwt</em>hsch<em>vapi</em>tkin<em>p1</em>i1</p>

<p>Managing God’s Money by Randy Alcorn, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004MPRVP6/ref=dbs<em>a</em>def<em>rwt</em>hsch<em>vapi</em>tkin<em>p1</em>i4</p>

<p>When the Money Runs Out by James Petty, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B088JMD5ZX/ref=dbs<em>a</em>def<em>rwt</em>hsch<em>vapi</em>tkin<em>p1</em>i0</p>

<p>Act of Grace by James Petty, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B082BDJT9P/ref=dbs<em>a</em>def<em>rwt</em>hsch<em>vapi</em>tkin<em>p1</em>i1</p>

<p>Crown Ministries website, https://www.crown.org/</p>

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      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
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      <description>In this episode of The Messy Podcast, Scott Mehl interviews Diane Langberg on how to help the traumatized.</description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of <em>The Messy Podcast,</em> Scott Mehl interviews Diane Langberg on how to help the traumatized.</p>

<p>Sponsored by Eternity Bible College: https://www.eternity.edu</p>

<p>Resources:</p>

<p>On the Threshold of Hope: Opening the Door to Healing for Survivors of Sexual Abuse: https://www.amazon.com/Threshold-Hope-Aacc-Counseling-Library/dp/0842343628</p>

<p>Is It Abuse?: A Biblical Guide to Identifying Domestic Abuse and Helping Victims: https://www.amazon.com/s?i=stripbooks&amp;rh=p<em>27%3ADarby+Strickland&amp;s=relevancerank&amp;text=Darby+Strickland&amp;ref=dp</em>byline<em>sr</em>book_1</p>

<p>Healing the Wounds of Trauma: https://www.amazon.com/Healing-Wounds-Trauma-Harriet-Hill/dp/194144900X</p>

<p>Counseling Survivors of Sexual Abuse: https://www.amazon.com/Counseling-Survivors-Sexual-Abuse-Library/dp/1591605199</p>

<p>Suffering in the Heart of God: How Trauma Destroys and Christ Restores: https://www.amazon.com/Suffering-Heart-God-Destroys-Restores/dp/1942572026</p>

<p>Trauma and Recovery: The Aftermath of Violence - from Domestic Abuse to Political Terror: https://www.amazon.com/Trauma-Recovery-Aftermath-Violence-Political/dp/0465087302</p>

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      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
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      <description>In this episode of The Messy Podcast, Scott Mehl interviews Darby Strickland on the intricacies of abuse.</description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of <em>The Messy Podcast,</em> Scott Mehl interviews Darby Strickland on the intricacies of abuse.</p>

<p>Sponsored by Eternity Bible College: https://www.eternity.edu</p>

<p>Resources:</p>

<p>Darby Strickland – Is it Abuse: A Biblical Guide to Identifying Domestic Abuse and Helping Victims
https://www.amazon.com/Abuse-Biblical-Identifying-Domestic-Helping/dp/1629956945</p>

<p>Darby Strickland – Domestic Abuse: Help for the Sufferer
https://www.amazon.com/Domestic-Abuse-Sufferer-Resources-Changing/dp/1629953253/</p>

<p>Chris Moles - The Heart of Domestic Abuse
https://www.amazon.com/Heart-Domestic-Abuse-Solutions-Violence/dp/1936141272</p>

<p>Justin and Lindsay Holcomb – Is it My Fault?
https://www.amazon.com/My-Fault-Suffering-Domestic-Violence/dp/0802410243/</p>

<p>Joy Forrest – Called to Peace: A Survivor’s Guide to Finding Peace
https://www.amazon.com/Called-Peace-Survivors-Finding-Domestic/dp/1948449013/</p>

<p>Jeremy Pierre and Greg Wilson – When Home Hurts
https://www.amazon.com/When-Home-Hurts-Responding-Domestic/dp/1527107221/</p>

<p>Diane Langberg – Suffering and the Heart of God
https://www.amazon.com/Suffering-Heart-God-Destroys-Restores/dp/1942572026/</p>

<p>Church Cares Curriculum
https://churchcares.com/</p>

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      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2021 22:17:37 +0100</pubDate>
      <description>In this episode of The Messy Podcast, Scott Mehl interviews Craig Marshall about how the Gospel applies to toxic leadership.</description>
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<p>Sponsored by Eternity Bible College: https://www.eternity.edu</p>

<p>Resources:</p>

<p>Darby Strickland – Is it Abuse
https://www.amazon.com/Abuse-Biblical-Identifying-Domestic-Helping/dp/1629956945</p>

<p>Chris Moles - The Heart of Domestic Abuse
https://www.amazon.com/Heart-Domestic-Abuse-Solutions-Violence/dp/1936141272</p>

<p>Elyse Fitzpatrick and Eric Shumacher – Worthy
https://www.amazon.com/Worthy-Celebrating-Value-Elyse-Fitzpatrick/dp/0764234366</p>

<p>IBCD Observation Videos – Domestic Abuse
https://ibcd.org/domesticabuse</p>

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      <title>105. The Mess of Cultural Shame (w/ Tim St. John)</title>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <link>https://feedpress.me/the_messy_podcast#entry-7634</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2021 08:00:00 +0100</pubDate>
      <description>In this episode of The Messy Podcast, Scott Mehl interviews Tim St. John about the complexities of shame culture.</description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of <em>The Messy Podcast,</em> Scott Mehl interviews Tim St. John about the complexities of shame culture.</p>

<p>Sponsored by Eternity Bible College: https://www.eternity.edu</p>

<p>Resources:</p>

<p>Shame Interrupted by Ed Welch, https://www.amazon.com/Shame-Interrupted-Lifts-Worthlessness-Rejection/dp/1935273981</p>

<p>The Gospel for Shame blog post by Ed Welch, https://www.ccef.org/shame/</p>

<p>Lighthouse Church South Bay counseling resources, https://lighthousesouthbay.org/ministries/counseling/counselor-resources/</p>

<p>Lighthouse Church South Bay study guide: Caring For One Another, https://lighthousesouthbay.org/our-resources/?<em>resource</em>type<em>filter=study-guides&amp;</em>series_filter=caring-for-one-another</p>

<p>A Small Book About Why We Hide: How Jesus Rescues Us From Insecurity, Regret, Failure and Shame by Ed Welch, https://www.amazon.com/Small-Book-about-Why-Hide/dp/1645071413</p>

<p>How Asian Americans Misunderstand Shame blog post by Fred Mok, https://sola.network/article/asian-americans-misunderstand-shame/</p>

<p>Distinguishing Between Guilt and Guilt blog post by Robert Jones, https://www.biblicalcounselingcoalition.org/2017/07/18/distinguishing-between-guilt-and-guilt/</p>

<p>How Do You Respond to People Who Feel Shame? by Winston Smith, https://www.ccef.org/how-do-you-respond-people-who-feel-shame/</p>

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<p>Resources:</p>

<p>Good News for Little Hearts by various, https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08V3524VJ?searchxofy=true&amp;binding=kindle_edition&amp;qid=1641424593&amp;sr=1-2</p>

<p>When People are Big and God is Small by Ed Welch, https://www.amazon.com/When-People-Are-Big-Small/dp/0875526004</p>

<p>What Do People Think of Me? Why Do I Care? by Ed Welch, https://www.amazon.com/What-You-Think-Why-Care/dp/1935273868</p>

<p>New Growth Press resources, https://newgrowthpress.com/julie-lowe/</p>

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<p>Sponsored by Eternity Bible College: https://www.eternity.edu</p>

<p>Resources:</p>

<p>Help! I’m a Slave to Food by Shannon McCoy, https://www.amazon.com/Help-Slave-Food-Life-Line-Mini-Books/dp/1633420272</p>

<p>God’s Answer to Overeating: A Study of Scriptural Attitudes by Ann Thomas Betea, https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Answer-Overeating-Ann-Thomas/dp/0930756150</p>

<p>Uncommon Vessels: A Program for Developing Godly Eating Habits by Elyse Fitzpatrick, https://www.amazon.com/Uncommon-Vessels-Program-Developing-Eating/dp/1889032271</p>

<p>The Heart of Addiction: A Biblical Perspective by Mark Shaw, https://www.amazon.com/Heart-Addiction-Biblical-Perspective/dp/1885904681</p>

<p>Addictions: A Banquet in the Grave by Ed Welch, https://www.amazon.com/Addictions-Banquet-Edward-T-Welch-ebook/dp/B0073M6A16</p>

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<p>Sponsored by Eternity Bible College: https://www.eternity.edu</p>

<p>Resources:</p>

<p>For Men:</p>

<p>Closing the Window by Tim Chester, https://www.amazon.com/Closing-Window-Steps-Living-Porn/dp/0830838422</p>

<p>Hide or Seek by John Freeman, https://www.amazon.com/Hide-Seek-When-Real-About/dp/1939946638</p>

<p>Finally Free by Heath Lambert, https://www.amazon.com/Finally-Free-Fighting-Purity-Power/dp/0310499232</p>

<p>Sexual Sanity for Men by David White, https://www.amazon.com/Sexual-Sanity-Men-Re-creating-Culture/dp/1936768992</p>

<p>For Women:</p>

<p>Sexual Sanity for Women by Ellen Dykas, https://www.amazon.com/Sexual-Sanity-Women-Relational-Brokenness/dp/1938267001</p>

<p>Purity is Possible by Helen Thorne, https://www.amazon.com/Purity-Possible-Helen-Thorne/dp/1909919845</p>

<p>For All:</p>

<p>Making All Things New by David Powlison, https://www.amazon.com/Making-All-Things-New-Restoring/dp/1433556146</p>

<p>What’s Wrong with a Little Porn When You’re Married by R. Nicholas Black, https://www.amazon.com/Whats-Wrong-Little-Youre-Married/dp/1936768941</p>

<p>What’s Wrong with a Little Porn When You’re Single by R. Nicholas Black, https://www.amazon.com/Whats-Wrong-Little-Youre-Single-ebook/dp/B06XT4WWJZ</p>

<p>Coming Clean, Breaking Pornography’s Hold on You by David Powlison, https://www.amazon.com/Coming-Clean-Breaking-Pornographys-Hold-ebook/dp/B007E60AU8</p>

<p>Sexual Addiction: Freedom from Compulsive Behavior by David Powlison, https://www.amazon.com/Sexual-Addiction-Freedom-Compulsive-Behavior/dp/1935273760</p>

<p>It’s All About Me: The Problem with Masturbation by Winston Smith,
https://www.amazon.com/Its-All-about-Me-Masturbation/dp/1934885967
When Your Husband is Addicted to Pornography by Vicki Tiede, https://www.amazon.com/When-Your-Husband-Addicted-Pornography/dp/1936768631/ref=pd<em>lpo</em>1?pd<em>rd</em>i=1936768631&amp;psc=1</p>

<p>Help! He’s Struggling with Pornography by Brian Croft,
https://www.amazon.com/HELP-Struggling-Pornography-Life-Line-Mini-Book/dp/1633420035</p>

<p>For Teenagers:</p>

<p>Changes: 7 Biblical Lessons to Make Sense of Puberty by Luke Gilkerson, https://www.amazon.com/Changes-Biblical-Lessons-Sense-Puberty/dp/1518631681</p>

<p>The Talk: 7 Lessons to Introduce Your Child to Biblical Sexuality by Luke Gilkerson, https://www.amazon.com/Talk-Lessons-Introduce-Biblical-Sexuality/dp/1500659444</p>

<p>Thoughts for Young Men by JC Ryle, https://www.amazon.com/Thoughts-Young-Men-J-C-Ryle/dp/0967760399</p>

<p>Mom, Dad…What’s Sex? by Joel Fitzpatrick and Jessica Thompson, https://www.amazon.com/Mom-Dad-Whats-Sex-Gospel-Centered/dp/0736972668</p>

<p>The God’s Design for Sex series by various,
https://www.amazon.com/Full-Set-Design-Revised-Paperback/dp/B00O5DIVTU</p>

<p>For Disciplers / Counselors / Parents:</p>

<p>Rescue Plan: Charting a Course to Restore Prisoners of Pornography by Deepak Reju, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09LD9ZT2S/ref=dbs<em>a</em>def<em>rwt</em>hsch<em>vapi</em>tkin<em>p1</em>i1</p>

<p>Pornography: Fighting for Purity (31-Day Devotionals for Life) by Deepak Reju, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HPDYJLH/ref=dbs<em>a</em>def<em>rwt</em>hsch<em>vapi</em>tkin<em>p1</em>i4</p>

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